MayLith: Okay, this is not the most gracefully-worded page title, sorry. I'm just about asleep, but wanted to note this one down, as I frequently lose ideas around this time.
Purpose: to facilitate more traffic here on the wiki, plus elevate comfort level with using the wiki
For those folks who want to get active on the wiki, but for whatever reason don't feel comfortable... have volunteer helpers, who have the same name (or similar name, given wikicase) on both wiki and forum, who can be PM'd on the forum for assistance in posting on the wiki.
In effect, this already exists (e.g. I'm more than happy to help anyone who PMs me on the forum regarding assistance with wiki posting) but we need to make it much more public, imho -- which would involve posting on the forum, at the very least. Plus, it doesn't have to be just moderators... many more folks can help out with wiki posting very effectively.
Nite
ReenenLaurie: I hardly ever visit the forum these days... but I'll be happy to assist people who struggle with the wiki... (I just have to update my email profile on the forum then I'll get an email when ppl PM me).
MayLith: Cool, thanks.
ErisDiscordia: Personally, I've found the hardest thing to be learning the syntax. There's help on it, of course, but it's buried fairly deep, and the two important sections, linking help and formatting help, a) are divided when they should be together (not logically, I admit... but from a beginner's standpoint, yes), and b) are blandly named, unemphasized siblings among other categories that a beginner doesn't really need. Well, at least that's my recollection without opening a new window to go look at the wiki help.
Frankly, I've tried to learn by cribbing off more experienced writers' wiki code, rather than trying to decipher the help -- that's how unhelpful I find it. But... different strokes for different folks, I'm sure.
MayLith: I found SyntaxReference to be the most useful help source. Then, later, when I learned a few things, I edited that same page to show more examples because I need to remember them, heh. I've almost completely ignored the wiki help itself.
Update: let me give a more concrete example. I absolutely CANNOT parry the blow... err, sorry, that was a meme from the C64 game* Knights of Legend invading my brain. Uh... I absolutely CANNOT figure out how to make a link whose text is one thing and destination is another thing, for links like "you can find my second RANDCOMP entry here" and having the link on the word "here" instead of having to write ErisDiscordia/RandComp somewhere to obtain the link.
MayLith: You alias it, essentially: [weird-wiki-fu-here pretty link] With that, the weird wikifu gets hidden, and the pretty link shows. wikifu needs to be physically concatenated -- no true spaces whatsoever, though you can escape them as shown on SyntaxReference. Pretty link stuff can have all the spaces/etc you want. So, if I'm linking to my current competition character's page, I'd do this:
[wiki:Self:MayLith_2fOleliron Oleliron] Which looks like:
The underscore2f thing is an escape for a slash; see SyntaxReference for more. wiki:Self: is essentially the equivalent of http://wiki.t-o-m-e.net/ when you are referencing one page on this wiki from another page on this wiki. (Though there's also the ["/ "] foo, which seems to work just fine for subpages.) And, by the way, this rather non-technical description probably has some of you hardcore CS/IT types screaming bloody murder, but this is just how I think of it...sorry.
(Well, actually, I guess I did make such a link yesterday, but only by cribbing off someone, and the gobbledygook made no sense to me.)
MayLith: That's how I learned MUSH. And a fair amount of C...
The closest thing to a wiki I've used in the past is everything2.com, and they explained their system for such links pretty well, but I can't figure out how to do it in a real wiki now that I'm in one.
MayLith: I'm over there, too, though I haven't been active for quite a while now -- mainly due to the wiki and the forum, actually! The wiki is very, very similar to everything2, but not the same. That confused me at first, too.
* Yes, I'm old. Thank you.
MayLith: I've got you beat.
I learned BASIC on an Atari 800 game machine (BASIC game cartridge, anyone???). My hard disk was a souped-up tape recorder. (I did, once, use punch-cards, but fortunately only once, and that was actually far, far later.)
ErisDiscordia: WE'RE NOT WORTHY! WE'RE NOT WORTHY! Thanks. I assume if I've got a page name with a wiki-unfriendly space in it, like ErisDiscordia/Naughty Space-Containing Name, there's some escape I can use in the wiki-fu to handle that as well?
MayLith: Grasshopper, please see SyntaxReference (referencing wiki names w/ special characters) for escape syntax. (And btw, I'm still Grasshopper myself, too.
) But you're very welcome.
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