MayLith: I just encountered a problem which I fear will become a common one if we shut down the forum's General Discussion.

I started to edit a reply in the following thread:

I wanted to ask a question about Trone, but didn't want to reveal his name in the GD. So I went over to Spoilers, created a stub page for SLotM, and a link to Trone on that page:

I was going to create the Trone page there and post my question on it (where it belongs), when I realized that (AFAICT) there is no way to link directly to that page from GD without giving Trone's name away. So I ended up asking the question on the LoM page, instead.

Now, I know a link can be redirected, but how would one do this? Create a page "LoM boss" and then link from there to Trone? There'd be a ZILLION redirection pages, and they'd start to overlap, I suspect. And the Wiki FAQ says those redirections should be used sparingly.

I've done some reading over at MoinMoin, but I haven't yet seen a wiki workaround to this.

There is a website, http://www.everything2.com/, which seems very similar to a wiki, though I don't know if it actually is one. There, you can redirect a link (or even create a subtle pun or evince sarcasm) with pipes, e.g.

The words to the right the pipe are shown on the page as a link, and when you click on the link, you go to the url to the left of the pipe.

I don't know if something like that can be incorporated into a wiki, but codewise, it's the only thing I can think of.

The only other thing I can think of is to always post something which might become spoily in Spoilers, or do one heck of a lot of thread moving, which is what we do on the forum. On the wiki, though, it makes more sense to "post it where it goes", doesn't it?

Maybe I'm just not seeing something, but whatever the answer to this issue is, IMHO it should be posted in the FAQ or the Wiki FAQ.


ReenenLaurie: I think you can use [wiki:Self:Spoilers/Dungeons/SacredLandOfMountains Spoily_Dungeon] to get Spoily_Dungeon, but hovering over it shows where it is linking, and therefor giving away the data.

Also I am not 100% sure if I understand what you were trying to do correctly.


MayLith: Thanks. I think you understood me correctly (?). I was just hoping to put posts in the proper place, e.g. a question about Trone's attacks in a thread about Trone, rather than in a thread about SLotM. Or did you have a different question?

The hover is spoily, but it's better than nothing, if nothing else exists (?) Could you please tell me where you found documentation on that nomenclature? I spent *hours* searching the other night. I found plenty of discussion about formatting and lack thereof, but very little on how to actually do things aside from a rather limited standard set which seems to be replicated almost everywhere. (And yes, I realize that formatting is inherently limited in wiki, but, for example, I have yet to see a page that documents how to create a table of contents.)


ReenenLaurie: Nomenclature? I feel so inferior at the moment, not a CLUE what it means. I assume where I found out how to do a link like that?

WikiSandBox -> HelpOnEditing -> HelpOnPageCreation#variablesubstitution -> HelpOnEditing/Subpages

* [wiki:Self:HelpOnEditing/SubPages This very page]

And then also on the Wiki Frequently Asked Questions from the frontpage.


MayLith: Ah! Thank you. Yes, that's what I wanted. :) :)

Though, for example of what is frustrating me: That page does not explain the ':Self:' term. It just uses it once in an example. All it appears to do is create an icon, though I suspect it does more than that and can be used in other ways as well. :?

Nomenclature: Don't feel inferior. Just see Merriam-Webster: I was using it in the sense of definition 3a.

Wiki Suggestions/Method for referral to spoiler items from GeneralDiscussion (last edited 2004-08-24 08:58:24 by NeilStevens)